Khadas VIM4 is coming soon!

Looking on those pictures - I’m curious does it now compatible with TS050 ? I don’t see how it could be attached - I can see MIPI - DSI connector, but don’t see touch screen smaller one. Perhaps new display module is coming ?

@OldNavi You can use TS050, we have combined the two FPC transposons into one 40PIN FPC transposons. But you need a new cable.

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Well that’s the problem.

Currently i have the Raspberry pi 4 8GB RAM edition with Argonone m.2 case + 2 TB SATA m.2 SSD.

What have i running on it?

  • deluge daemon + deluge web
  • Sabnzbd
  • Apache
  • mariadb + phpmyadmin
  • Nextcloud server
  • Icinga2
  • Gitlab server CE edition
  • code server (vs code)

Besides these i want some additional applications such as

  • openldap server
  • pxe server
  • jDownloader (headless)
  • Syncthing (easy sync with my NAS that is not 24/7 on)

With the current installed software i am already at around 5-6 GB (idle). So yeah thats the reason i want to have enough RAM to accommodate sudden surges in RAM when all of them are busy at the same time with additional 4 core making it a octa-core. When i saw that there was the question of people also wanting the 16 GB RAM + octa core CPU + low power i was like “VIM4 would you like to marry me?”

I currently have the VIM2 Max as my CoreElec box, but wanted to switch to the Raspberry pi 4 8 GB edition as my LibreElec box (Amlogic stopped supporting S912 soc) and using VIM4 16GB RAM version if it would be released for the low power server.

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We were hoping for the same thing for one of our products. Also doing stuff with video and plenty of ram is needed for that too. Also need faster PCIe r/w speeds to NVMe, the dedicated USB 3 /PCIe is nice.

Booting from NVMe would be nice too.

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The sad thing is, although there are hexa and now octa-cores availble a large part of the SCB’s will still stay at quadcores because that “fullfills” the need of many people already + staying at low cost (just look at Raspberry pi 4 still at 4 cores). Even raspberry pi 5 i’m afraid will not deliver octa-cores let alone 16 GB of RAM.

It would be awesome if Khadas would open a pledge something for people like us. Even if for example would only make lets say 100 VIM4’s with 16 GB. I mean i’m sure there are 100 people that would love to have ONE low power server to RULE THEM ALL :smiley: If not people, for sure companies like yours that would even buy multiple not just 1.

Well i think this is already possible. With my Raspberry Pi 4 i have Ubuntu server 20.04 running on the M.2 SATA SSD. Big relief from the nightmare of corrupt and slow micr-sdcards.

Khadas VIM3 booting from SSD: Boot Ubuntu from M.2 SSD - #2 by Electr1

Maybe then Khadas compact SBC isn’t an option for you ? You can’t just increase cores and RAM and stay in the same power budget and PCB size - so far there is no huge jump in chip build tech process. VIM3 is already on Amlogic chip with 12nm tech process. Dunno what tech process is for A311D2. - but hard to believe that it is 3-5 nm :slight_smile: Even despite tech process you have to stay in the money budget - all latest and greatest features will increase cost a much, plus microchips shortage nowadays is far away from the end. Be realistic and try to select a software stack suitable for the HW…

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Well costs are not the thing i am looking at. I mean even if i would pay for example $200 for it, i would still do it. It’s an investment for the future. That is why i bought the VIM2 MAX back in the day (2018). I though it would be usefull up until 10 years. Not knowing that less than 4 years later it would be useless (no more big CoreElec updates). Besides this, i am trying to live a minimalistic lifestyle so whatever i buy i want it to be used for multiple purposes with less power usage.

One could say well buy a NUC, but again we come back to powercosumption. That is why in the past i also bought a Turris Omnia Router. Replace/upgrade Wifi cards, put a mSATA ssd in it with a Linux container now being my Pi Hole server and still receiving frequent firmware updates.

Do you know another SCB that fullfills my requirements of 8 cores + 16 GB RAM with at least 1 USB 3.0?

Enough in the world - but forget about $200 cost… As I said earlier - Khadas team is trying to make affordable SBC - so they are balancing between many limitation factors, power, size, price and so on…

For what you are looking - perhaps as example - quickly qoogled for Qualcomm® Robotics RB5 Development Platform - 96Boards

Everything has it is own price – more you pay - more you get

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Radxa Rock5.

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BRUUUUHHH… I mean it just doesn’t stop with my requirement. It also ships with 2.5Gbe ethernet, which is beyond awesome as i have already upgraded all my ethernet cables to cat 8 and slowly also upgrading rest of my infrastructe at home to 10Gbit.

A very simple post from your side, but made my day!!!

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The edge V with NVMe on the M2 board is much better than a PI4 with SSD on the USB port. Got an Edge V running a LAMP stack and its been doing fine on ubuntu 20.04 LTS server 5.16-rc2. It would be nice if it would boot from the NVMe, now it takes some post OS install configuration that would be a nightmare to maintain at the end point.

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You’re welcome! :smiley:

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Hello Fox
At the moment, the hardware supports booting from NVME. The software needs to be updated, which is in our future software support plan.

Edit: check the updated comment below.

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Hi Khadas Team! Dose Vim4 have NPU > 5TOPS?

Hello Trong

We’ll update more information for VIM4 NPU in this forum thread, stay tuned!

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Those are good words to hear, thank you Ruby.

The SoC and VIM4 not supports boot from NVMe SSD directly, but the pre-installed OOWOW able to load the OS that installed on NVMe for similar purpose.

You can check the VIM4 user manual below for further information:

Good day!

Just found the git hub info and that appears to be a winner!!!

I really like Krescue and that cloud download should make it even easier for users to install their OS.

I hope Ubuntu 22.04 for all Khadas devices will be released no later than VIM4