5G Support- VIM4

Can you please clarify the procedure including required hardware add ons and compatibility for specific 5G chips as it relates to the VIM4? Thanks for your fine work and innovations. Keep up the great products, affordable price points, and stay vigilant with enforced full stack security. If you release the price of the VIM4 before the release date, and compatable hardware add ons…more people will save and order :slight_smile:

Best Regards,
Bryan

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Hi goenjoy,

Do you have schematic for this Key.m to Key.b adapter for 5G module?
I want to try attach Telit n980 module instead of Quectel one.

Thanks!

There is no file you mentioned.

Hi goenjoy,

Ok, it strange, the files need for production, i can use tools to trace the routes by myself.
But when i connect the modem, i cannot see any devices on PCI bus. On USB bus i can see the modem, but i think it USB2 signals, that connected to management port of the modem.
In additional i can see 4 serial interfaces of the modem: /dev/ttyUSB0-3.
I cannot see any network interface from this modem.
Could you explain how i can establish 5G connection?

Attached lsusb log from the modem device.

Thanks.
Dmitry

Bus 001 Device 003: ID 2c7c:0800 Quectel Wireless Solutions Co., Ltd. RM500Q-GL
Device Descriptor:
  bLength                18
  bDescriptorType         1
  bcdUSB               2.10
  bDeviceClass            0
  bDeviceSubClass         0
  bDeviceProtocol         0
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  idVendor           0x2c7c Quectel Wireless Solutions Co., Ltd.
  idProduct          0x0800
  bcdDevice            4.14
  iManufacturer           1 Quectel
  iProduct                2 RM500Q-GL
  iSerial                 3 a23a0c1e
  bNumConfigurations      1
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength       0x0109
    bNumInterfaces          6
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          4 DIAG_SER_RMNET
    bmAttributes         0xa0
      (Bus Powered)
      Remote Wakeup
    MaxPower              500mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           2
      bInterfaceClass       255 Vendor Specific Class
      bInterfaceSubClass    255 Vendor Specific Subclass
      bInterfaceProtocol     48
      iInterface              0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x01  EP 1 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        1
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           3
      bInterfaceClass       255 Vendor Specific Class
      bInterfaceSubClass      0
      bInterfaceProtocol      0
      iInterface              0
      ** UNRECOGNIZED:  05 24 00 10 01
      ** UNRECOGNIZED:  05 24 01 00 00
      ** UNRECOGNIZED:  04 24 02 02
      ** UNRECOGNIZED:  05 24 06 00 00
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x83  EP 3 IN
        bmAttributes            3
          Transfer Type            Interrupt
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x000a  1x 10 bytes
        bInterval               9
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x82  EP 2 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x02  EP 2 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        2
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           3
      bInterfaceClass       255 Vendor Specific Class
      bInterfaceSubClass      0
      bInterfaceProtocol      0
      iInterface              0
      ** UNRECOGNIZED:  05 24 00 10 01
      ** UNRECOGNIZED:  05 24 01 00 00
      ** UNRECOGNIZED:  04 24 02 02
      ** UNRECOGNIZED:  05 24 06 00 00
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x85  EP 5 IN
        bmAttributes            3
          Transfer Type            Interrupt
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x000a  1x 10 bytes
        bInterval               9
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x84  EP 4 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x03  EP 3 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        3
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           3
      bInterfaceClass       255 Vendor Specific Class
      bInterfaceSubClass      0
      bInterfaceProtocol      0
      iInterface              0
      ** UNRECOGNIZED:  05 24 00 10 01
      ** UNRECOGNIZED:  05 24 01 00 00
      ** UNRECOGNIZED:  04 24 02 02
      ** UNRECOGNIZED:  05 24 06 00 00
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x87  EP 7 IN
        bmAttributes            3
          Transfer Type            Interrupt
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x000a  1x 10 bytes
        bInterval               9
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x86  EP 6 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x04  EP 4 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
    Interface Association:
      bLength                 8
      bDescriptorType        11
      bFirstInterface         4
      bInterfaceCount         2
      bFunctionClass          2 Communications
      bFunctionSubClass      14
      bFunctionProtocol       0
      iFunction               0
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        4
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           1
      bInterfaceClass         2 Communications
      bInterfaceSubClass     14
      bInterfaceProtocol      0
      iInterface              6 RM500Q-GL
      CDC Header:
        bcdCDC               1.10
      CDC Union:
        bMasterInterface        4
        bSlaveInterface         5
      CDC MBIM:
        bcdMBIMVersion       1.00
        wMaxControlMessage   4096
        bNumberFilters       32
        bMaxFilterSize       128
        wMaxSegmentSize      2048
        bmNetworkCapabilities 0x20
          8-byte ntb input size
      CDC MBIM Extended:
        bcdMBIMExtendedVersion           1.00
        bMaxOutstandingCommandMessages     64
        wMTU                             1500
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x88  EP 8 IN
        bmAttributes            3
          Transfer Type            Interrupt
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0040  1x 64 bytes
        bInterval               9
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        5
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           0
      bInterfaceClass        10 CDC Data
      bInterfaceSubClass      0
      bInterfaceProtocol      2
      iInterface              0
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        5
      bAlternateSetting       1
      bNumEndpoints           2
      bInterfaceClass        10 CDC Data
      bInterfaceSubClass      0
      bInterfaceProtocol      2
      iInterface              7 MBIM Data
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x8e  EP 14 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x0f  EP 15 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
Binary Object Store Descriptor:
  bLength                 5
  bDescriptorType        15
  wTotalLength       0x002a
  bNumDeviceCaps          3
  USB 2.0 Extension Device Capability:
    bLength                 7
    bDescriptorType        16
    bDevCapabilityType      2
    bmAttributes   0x00000006
      BESL Link Power Management (LPM) Supported
  SuperSpeed USB Device Capability:
    bLength                10
    bDescriptorType        16
    bDevCapabilityType      3
    bmAttributes         0x00
    wSpeedsSupported   0x000f
      Device can operate at Low Speed (1Mbps)
      Device can operate at Full Speed (12Mbps)
      Device can operate at High Speed (480Mbps)
      Device can operate at SuperSpeed (5Gbps)
    bFunctionalitySupport   1
      Lowest fully-functional device speed is Full Speed (12Mbps)
    bU1DevExitLat           1 micro seconds
    bU2DevExitLat         500 micro seconds
  SuperSpeedPlus USB Device Capability:
    bLength                20
    bDescriptorType        16
    bDevCapabilityType     10
    bmAttributes         0x00000001
      Sublink Speed Attribute count 1
      Sublink Speed ID count 0
    wFunctionalitySupport   0x1100
    bmSublinkSpeedAttr[0]   0x000a4030
      Speed Attribute ID: 0 10Gb/s Symmetric RX SuperSpeedPlus
    bmSublinkSpeedAttr[1]   0x000a40b0
      Speed Attribute ID: 0 10Gb/s Symmetric TX SuperSpeedPlus
Device Status:     0x0000
  (Bus Powered)

Where did you get the 5G module? The 5G module can support USB interface and PCIE interface. Maybe the firmware of your 5G module is set to USB interface for communication. The following AT commands can be used to query:

AT+QCFG="data_interface"

Hi goenjoy,
We have the modems from quectel. We develop our 5G radio and Base Station, so we have modems and CPE’s from different vendors. I want to build my own CPE with VIM3/4 + WWAN Extension. Currently Telit modem doesn’t fit the board mechanically - the telit modem have components on bottom side, and SIM holder on extension board dont give install it well.
The command output is:
ati

Quectel
RM500Q-GL
Revision: RM500QGLABR11A01M4G

OK

AT+QCFG=“data_interface”

+QCFG: “data_interface”,0,0

OK

at+qcfg=?

+QCFG: “rrc”,(0-5)
+QCFG: “hsdpacat”,(6,8,10-24)
+QCFG: “hsupacat”,(5,6)
+QCFG: “pdp/duplicatechk”,(0,1)
+QCFG: “risignaltype”,(“respective”,“physical”)
+QCFG: “lte/bandprior”,(1-43),(1-43),(1-43)
+QCFG: “volte_disable”,(0,1)
+QCFG: “data_interface”,(0,1),(0,1)
+QCFG: “pcie/mode”,(0,1)
+QCFG: “pcie_mbim”,(0,1)
+QCFG: “efratctl”,(0,1)

Thanks!

@dgel27 The 5G module you are using communicates via USB interface. Your 5G module needs to be converted to PCIE interface communication. You may need to find a manufacturer to deal with the details. The command output of our 5G module is as follows:

AT+QCFG=“data_interface”

+QCFG: “data_interface”,1,0

OK